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SPOILERS: Batman #39


Dear Scott Snyder, why do you hate Alfred so much? I mean, we all thought it was the horses, but it's become abundantly clear who the real #1 on your "fuck that guy" list is.

The Spoilers:

The confrontation with the Court goes about as well as one would expect (as in, not that well at all) and Batman is left without the compound he's looking for, meanwhile, we find out where Joker was swimming to last issue... The cave! Oh looky there, off with one of Alfred's hands.

Ultimately, Joker wanted all of Batman's decorations from the cave to put on a parade celebrating the end of Batman. While Joker sits on his throne in the parade, the words he uses suggests that the compound Bruce is looking for can be found in his spinal chord. So, that means Bruce needs the family to stage an assault... but we're talking the EXTENDED family, the family you don't invite over to thanksgiving... Yep, along with Babs, Tim, Jason and Harper, we're getting a team up with Penguin, Bane, Poison Ivy, Freeze, Scarecrow, Clayface, and Killer Croc.

END.

Then in the back up, turns out the Doctor who has been listening to the stories has been working on a book about the Joker, having discovered who he really was. The inmates don't take kindly to their stories being disproven, so the Doc barricades her self in a room, where Eric Border, who helped her in her Joker research is waiting for her... But then of course, Eric is Joker, and everything he told her was just another story, because HAHA, it's funny, and he gives her a gun to defend herself, as the rules of the game were that whoever survives is telling the true story... OR ARE THEY!?

Yep, he drove another one crazy.

END. 2.

The Opinion: 

For everything I've praised Endgame for, it remains the same in this issue. Shit is just crazy and it's quite the page turning. Pointless to go over that again, but it's also just safe to say that this was another great issue.

That said, there were some problems. I said the same thing around Death of the Family, but harming Alfred just feels cheap to me. Doing anything bad to him is just a super easy way to illicit an emotional response, and I feel the same here, no so more than ever.

Then there are some serious structural problems I ran into with this issue. It jumps around in time a lot. Things get left unresolved like a fight with one of the first Talons where Bruce is demanding to know if Joker was around back then. Cut. Never see it again. Jump forward in time. Then Joker emerges from the water sporting some giant wound on his face... When this was when we saw him last in the previous issue. What just happened there? Why is like a quarter of his face missing? Then he gets shot by Alfred in the ear. Oh, then Alfred. You cut his hand off after Joker breaks into the cave and look, time jump, Julia is jus like "Yeah he's fine" and Bruce is just like "Alright, cool." Like what the fuck? Joker just broke into the Batcave and fucking mutilated Alfred and it's just cut to: next scene. 

It was a good issue, but just how the issue flowed from page to page was really frustrating to me. 

20 comments :

  1. His face... maybe it is melting away all by itself? The idea is the "funeral", right? Maybe Joker is offing Batman and Gotham because he himself is dying... and there can be no Gotham and Batman without the Joker. I know it exactly the opposite idea of what the book was trying to make us believe (immortal and eternal Joker)... but what a hell?

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  2. My understanding was it was all Bruce's imagination what happened to Alfred. Probably also a bit of a Cassandra vision as well. When "Penny-Two" (ugh) said he was fine and that she locked him in the armory, I assumed the scene with Alfred losing his hand was the possible outcome if she didn't.

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  3. Yeah the time jumps really messed up the story. And seriously this is getting ridiculous what they do to Alfred .first death of the family , then eternal 22 with hush and now this. If retiring Alfred is your go you don't have to go to such lengths Snyder . Just have him go am too old for this and come up with a way for Julia to stay(hold the tragedy)

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  4. Snyder says in an interview that the Joker's face was damaged by the Batcave's defenses; could've been clearer in the comic itself. Also, Sex Criminals is being made into a TV series. Whatya know.

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    1. Yeah I saw that. It's not a question of being clearer, it's a question of it just not being in the book at all.

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  5. Not a fan of the time jumps, but otherwise, loved the new issue. And I think it confirms some of my ideas of what's going on with Joker's "immortality" and how it's tied in with the Court. I think it's also tied in with Zero Year and the Red Hood gang. I think the guy who plunged into the chemicals, who became the Joker, KNEW what he would become by falling in, he let himself fall because he know that the chemicals in the vat contained the same thing that the Court had been using for regenerative fluid ages ago (the reason why there are "Jokerized" people in photos of the past, because the Court's regenerative fluid was imperfect back then). Joker is just the only person who took the appearance and Pale Man mythos to its logical conclusion: The Joker.

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  6. Damn, first gotham and now this

    Alfred is having a bad week

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    1. So funny, I thought the same thing. :)

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  7. This is getting to be much. Alfred. I am surprised he has stuck around this long. I think the fear toxin thing alone would have driven any sane man to retire. Maybe they can reattach his hand if they hurry. It's just too much.

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    1. ... or maybe he'll get a sweet hook-shot device like 1990s Aquaman!

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  8. Well, this whole story arc has been characterized by time jumps. Superman and Batman fights abruptly ends when they fall to the water and then…time jump. Joker shoots Batman and after another time jump we see Bruce in the cave. Batman calls Gordon, Jokers says “Hiii Bruce…” and we never see the follow up conversation. I do not recall that the previous Snyder story arcs had so many time jumps. Do you think it could be related to the story anyhow? Batman just imagining stuff, maybe because of the scarecrow fear toxin? Or is just a stylistic choice of Snyder?

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    1. Yeah, that's sort of bothered me too. The "jump cuts" in the story feel so disorienting. I mean, I suppose that could be intentional. I know Snyder's a good writer, but not sure if I can give him that much credit though. I've definitely felt "off-kilter" reading the arc. The relentless pace is certainly entertaining, but disorienting...

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  9. I too had some problems with the time jumps in this issue but I think this is because Snyder and Capullo want to make a big reveal at the end of their arc in issue 40. Then we will have the Talon's answer, the reason behind Joker's disfigurement (notice that his bathing suit is scratched on the right shoulder).

    But apart form this small frustration, it is a solid issue, showing the scope of Joker's evil doings. And I like to think the Joker parade is a tribute to Tim Burton's Batman. :D

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  10. Okay, new info:

    On his latest Newsrama interview, Snyder confirmed that we will know the Talon's answer in issue 40 and that Joker's wound (wich is going to heal, by the way) is caused by the cave's defenses.

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    1. Still, you shouldn’t have to search for an interview with the guy to find out whats going out with the story. If Snyder didn’t have the space or time in the comic to explain what the hell happened to joker’s face, I do not think he should have included that in the first place. Leaving stuff like that and then given the answer in an interview looks like lazy writing to me. However…I have hope, that all this omissions or time jumps can have a logical explication in issue 40.

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  11. You know what WAS cool? The parade. Not only was there a reference to Batman 1989, but it had the Mechanical T-Rex on display. God I love that T-Rex.

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    1. The parade was pretty awesome. Made me laugh.

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  12. The time jumps in this issue felt like they were there just to squeeze in as many big moments as possible. Although I loved each moment of this issue and the issue as a whole, it did get overwhelming at times.

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  13. From what I understand, we were supposed to remember issue #15, when Batman explains that the underwaters of the cave have all types of traps and whatnot. Still would've help a tiny bit to clarify it a bit better.

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  14. Also, you know what else has time jumps/abrupt stops and no sense of time.....dreams/hallucinations. I still think this is Batman's final moments/thoughts as he hangs from the batsignal in eternal. Even the little logo the put next to the Endgame title each issue looks like the bat symbol that's cut into Bruce's chest.

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