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Thursday, December 20, 2012

Concerning Catwoman


If you read my review of yesterday's Catwoman #15, or saw my twitter feed as I was in the process of writing the review, you'll know what's coming. If not, here's the short end of it: I will cease full coverage of Catwoman until a new writer comes on the book.

I hate to be that guy, you know, an angry comic fan complaining on the internet, I quite literally hate that shit, but I'm sorry, Nocenti's Catwoman is garbage. This is not just "oh, I didn't like this story" because lord knows, there are some writers whose work I find acceptable, or even flat out like, who every now and then turn out a story that leaves me disappointed. No, that's not it at all, this Catwoman book has been turned into completely nonsensical, mischaracterized garbage. The character that we readers are being presented is not Selina Kyle, New 52 changes or not, and the fact that DC has accepted it as such, is in a word: disheartening.

I should have known from the terrible #0 issue that the title would be taking a complete nosedive. Regardless, from here on out, I will no longer be buying this title. I can't support this kind of shit, and the fact that I of all people, am dropping a Bat related title should really say something as to how strongly I feel about this. So that obviously means I will no longer be doing spoiler/review posts on the title, and the only times you will see this book mentioned is for solicitation or preview posts.

Here's hoping someone who knows what they're doing saves Selina Kyle in 2013.

16 comments:

  1. No, you're totally right. Nocenti's not doing well at all. They think if they put a female writer on her that things will look better. Well...it doesn't and it sucks. They need to put Gail Simone on Catwoman, not to say her run on Batgirl was bad. But you can see that Simone knows how to write Catwoman based on the Batgirl Annual #1. She shined on that issue for Catwoman.

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  2. I hear you. Noccenti's scripts are all over the place, it was the same on Green Arrow. Random characters just pop up with random snappy remarks and the panels never seem to continue quite from the previous one.

    Its a shame though, since the art was fantastic from Sandoval.

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  3. Might I just add....that SPINE.
    I know cats can bend that way but not humans. Or maybe she needs a new origin story where we find out she was born with double joints.
    I know nobody seems to give a crap about how catwoman's / women's body/bodies are portrayed in comics with all the extra not so subtle innuendos that come with it so let me be the first one.
    Ps: yeah...the story also sucks. Double whammy.

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    1. you really need to see the whole cover, its beautful, and if you saw the entire shot you will get why she is postioned like that, it is not a back broke pose at all, she is laying down on the bike, and where looking at her from infront and above.

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  4. FHIZ knows I've been raving about Catwoman on twitter and what Nocenti has done to the character. I am curious, however, about the constant complaints about 'sexist' portrayals of the female body in comics (especially Catwoman). Male bodies are equally objectified in all comic book series and yet there no fan complaint about the issue. Yet Catwoman's spine gets spine gets constant attention.

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  5. @Kai: I don't really mind cheesecake in comics - though there is a limit - but I don't buy into the "men are objectified as much as women" thing. Unless we start seeing panels where the artists work to get the males ass and, say, chest hair in a panel or an uptick in junk shots, I personally don't think that line holds.

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  6. Concepts of male beauty are different from ideals of female beauty. Current society values thin waisted women with large breasts. This is no different from valuing males with Adnois shaped bodies. Men in comics always have perfectly sculpted abs, pectoral muscles, and biceps. They are also given clothes and possesses that accentuate these features. At times the muscle mass on a male character (ie. Colossus) are physiologically impossible to obtain. Back on the topic of Catwoman, Judd Winick and Guillem March's run on Catwoman was much less sexist than Nocenti's. In Catwoman 15 Selina is jumping into bed with the guy that almost got her killed last month just because he brought her diamond ring? How is that not sexist?

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    1. it wasnt actualy a ring, and its not fucking sexist to write a female that simply likes sex for sex sake. nothing fucking wrong with it at all prudes.

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  7. I would like to correct myself and say that Winick and March's run on Catwoman was NOT sexist at all.

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  8. I don't blame you. The writer is really, really terrible. She makes Selina look bad! I'm glad someone's trying to do something about it. I really hope we get a new writer soon.

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  9. @MOVIEARTMAN you are right there is nothing wrong with a woman who enjoys sex. What I find about Nocenti's writing is her characterization of women as being materialistic and obsessed with jewels. Nocenti's Selina's obsession with jewels borderlines psychosis. In Catwoman 0, once she's rejected by a man she climbs into the first open window she sees and begins sobbing over pearls. She mentions needing jewels 3 times in Catwoman 13. She mentions jewels about 4 times in issue 15. Both Gwen and Lola are characters who support Nocenti's Selina's obsession. Winick's Selina, in contrast, was a thief by trade and not driven by obsession. She stole drug money, art, and antiques from mobsters and the rich. Gwen had her stealing cars. Selina would use her fence to sell these items for cash. What she buys with this money are bras, books, and wine. Selina says all this in issue 1 of the new 52. Selina's sexuality in issue 1 was actually empowering to women. Most other popular media would have punished Selina for her sexuality with consequences (ie. disease or pregnancy). Her active initiation of sex with Batman, as opposed to the reversal, gave Selina much more power and liberation, which is something that is usually reserved for male characters. Winick's writing on Catwoman was much more feminist than most believe. Nocenti's, as I am arguing, is a highly sexist view and is actually degrading to women.

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    1. I'm going to step in and say I agree with everything said about the contrast between two writers and how Selina goes about stealing things. The scene in issue #0 sobbing over pearls was absolutely terrible.

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  10. I felt the need to respond to your original post. I haven't read Catwoman past the first four issues or so, but Nocenti's work on Green Arrow was an incoherent mess (Freddie Williams' cartoonish artwork didn't help also), and I can't imagine her Catwoman is any better. I feel we both have similar views on things, that we want to like something and hate to crap on a writer or artist, but seriously, why does DC keep giving Nocenti work?

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  11. I have to agree. Catwoman has gotten worse than what Lifield did to Deathstroke. It's an about face where a character we've grown to like for specific reasons does the exact opposite of what they've established. It's like they ate a good script, then puked it back up and rolled with how it came out. I normally don't complain either... but there are times I can't hold my tongue. Lets hope it changes things.

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  12. You know, I loved Winick's run on the character. Not the greatest comic I ever read mind you, but extremely enjoyable and was one of the comics I looked forward to each month from the Batman family, even if the artists changed every now and then.

    However, I'm so depressed about what happened to this comic. Once so good and now... argh.

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